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Chapter 15(2/3)

Brandi said: "Then you are the awakened one?"

Ye Zinong said: "Awakened beings and sentient beings are general terms for social research objects. If you are aware of it, you will also be confused. If you understand this, you may not understand that. Everyone is aware of something and is not aware of it. If you don't do it,

Specifically." Brandi was silent for a moment and said: "You don't even mind whether you are right or wrong, so I don't know how to talk to you. If a person can't prove that his point of view is correct, but still insists on it, this

Is it also the academic spirit of seeking truth from facts?”

Ye Zinong said: "If you don't insist, it is meaningless. This kind of discussion must start with a definition of the concept, otherwise the socialism you understand is public ownership, and the socialism I understand is a socialized economy. They are two different things, and they can never be discussed.

Come up with a reason. In this question, just defining the concept requires a debate, and the reasoning and argumentation is a long discussion. If you can't refute me, you can't make me go against my will, right? If you refute me, it means that your understanding is more thorough than mine. You also need to

Me? No matter what the conclusion is, the result is the same. Are you still digging this hole when you know there are no potatoes in the ground?"

Brandi nodded, looked at the pile of beans and said: "Yes, no matter what you say, it is true and well-founded. The point of view that is independent of the position is nothing more than fair and objective, but which position does not think that it is

What about being fair and objective? Then there will be no conclusion. At most, it will be an exchange of views between positions." Ye Zinong said: "So, if you have that time, you might as well find a restaurant and I'll treat you to a big dinner."

Brandy said: "According to your statement, there is no truth in the world."

Ye Zi Nong went to the bathroom and took off the mirror hanging on the wall. When he came back, he put the mirror up next to the beans and said: "It is what it reflects. It has no position, no likes and dislikes. In fact, objectivity is also a thing, and it may not be

Truth and objectivity only mean that there is no interest, it does not mean that there is no likes and dislikes, nor does it mean that there is the ability to observe truthfully."

Brandi asked: "Why are you the mirror and others the position?"

Ye Zinong put the mirror aside and said: "As long as you are a human being, you cannot be a mirror. The law of cause and effect is a mirror, and the logic and practice of identification and proof are mirrors. In fact, neither is truth. It is not called truth anymore, it is called a law.

Leaving one's position may not necessarily be the truth, but it must not be accepted by one's position. Without an audience, there is no money to be made. This is the hard truth. This kind of thing is obvious like lice on a bald head, just take a quick look and know it in your mind."

Brandi was silent for a while, and finally put away the "Letter of Intent" and said lightly: "Do you like eating that much?"

Zhi Nong smiled and said: "I just know how to eat, nothing else."

Brandi smiled and said, "Okay, let's go eat. It's still early, so we can't just sit like this and not say a word, right? It's still the same topic, we don't have anything to do with it, just like old friends chatting.

Let’s talk, okay?”

The leaf farmer said: "You are just digging a hole for the sake of digging a hole."

Brandi said: "I come sincerely, at least I want to know what kind of hand I am shaking."

Ye Zi Nong picked up the mirror and went to the bathroom, hung the mirror back to its original position, returned to the living room and pushed aside the beans on the coffee table to make a space so that the teapot, ashtray and teacups could be placed calmly, unlike just now

It was so disorderly that he just took advantage of every opportunity. After doing this, he lit a cigarette and said, "If you are willing, then go ahead and dig."

The atmosphere in the room quietly changed, and it was no longer so stiff.

Brandy drank a cup of tea and said: "Originally, I didn't want to discuss sensitive issues with you so early. Although I am not an expert on this issue, it is still okay to raise some questions. It's just that... after all, you hold a Chinese passport and discuss sensitive issues.

It will inevitably involve China's system and reality. I think this is not a dilemma that Chinese people are willing to face anyway."

Yizinong smiled and said, "Didn't you tell me that I am alone and have no worries about my family being implicated? What can the Communist Party do to me? My suspicion of communism did not start with the red scarf, but with scolding the Communist Party."

Yes, because my mother died, my father also died, and I became a son of a bitch. Once you try the feeling of starving on the streets, you will know what it can inspire. However, a "History of the Communist Movement" is not for me.

It can be covered with a piece of personal scar. What is there that cannot be discussed in China? Isn’t it just words like autocracy and tyranny? Just make sense. I don’t agree with swearing in the street with your eyes closed.”

Brandi said: "Yes, I don't agree with swearing either. Then answer my question first. If you can go against your will, can you prove the failure of communism?"

Ye Zinong said: "If communism is a mythical paradise, it is absurd even if you don't have to go against your will. Marx is not a god or the end of ideological exploration. Human beings can only progress by critically understanding what their predecessors have done. Why should we criticize Marx when we get there?"

What's so terrible? For example, public ownership, without private ownership, how can it be public? Where will you be a public person? Spears and shields are the same things, who can throw one away and carry the other? For example, class struggle, if

Human history is the history of class struggle, so how is it possible to deny all social contradictions other than class struggle? Just like the big pot of rice, there are complaints in the ranks of workers, and the struggle for power in the palace is still killing you and me. Every element is

It has an impact on the evolution of history. Brandi smiled and said: "Well, this is the idea I want."

Ye Zi Nong said: "What is criticism? It is a screening and judgmental opinion. Is the way you want to criticize? It is to criticize without judging. Once you judge, you will make no money. You said: Is it the European people and the Chinese people?

They are all wrong, are you right? The people have nothing to do with right or wrong. The people are not accountable and do not judge right or wrong. The interests of the people do not have a judgment of right or wrong, but only a judgment of the degree of possibility. The people know that society

The name "ism" is not the same as the people knowing the essence of socialism. Humanity's understanding of social laws is a complex and gradual process. It is not something that can be divided into right and wrong halves with a knife. Marx is not the only one to explore social laws. Marx's

The method of understanding is not the only one. Marx was based on the understanding possible under the conditions of his time. To evaluate Marx with the requirements of God or the Terminator is certainly not a scientific attitude. Not every word of Marx is the truth, and the "Communist Manifesto" is

It has been revised again and again, and more than a year of practice has also continued to understand and revise it. If the evaluation of Marxism does not pay attention to its core things, but evaluates it directly from the words, then it can only be based on different standpoints.

, it is no longer important what Marxism is, what is important is what each respective position requires."

Brandi said: "Is this a word play?"

Yizinong said: "If there is no logic, then all that is left is word games."

Brandi said: "So what do you think communism is?"

Ye Zi Nong said: "You don't need to add "I think" in front of every sentence. Is it possible that I don't think so?"

Brandi said, "No need to."

Ye Zinong said: "In a word, the organic whole of the world economy is human communism, and the theory that explains this evolutionary principle is communism. The word communism has been given the color of salvation and promise from the beginning. People put it out of good wishes.

Communism has been deified. Communism is not about eliminating the poor and the rich, it is not a paradise, it is not a material and moral indicator, it is a concept of economics and a description of the economic form. Since it is a product of economic laws, it must not be something that people can strive for.

, it cannot be a theoretical weapon for the liberation of any class. The most popular understanding is that when there is an economic crisis in the east of the earth, there is a piece of meat missing from the bowl in the west of the earth. This is communism."

Brandi thought for a moment and said: "If we go by this, it would be communism now, and an oil crisis would be enough to remove a piece of meat from the bowl of the whole world."

Ye Zi Nong said: "If there is a piece of meat missing from the bowl, the economic structure will be adjusted, eliminated, and promoted. If there is not even a grain of rice in the bowl, there will be trouble. As long as I am hungry, you will not be able to live a solid life. Society

It will integrate towards a more stable structure. Communism is actually a very common word. It can be a partnership between several people, a collaboration between enterprises, a merger, or a cooperation between regions or countries. Regionality

A socialized economy, you can call it socialism. The human economy that has developed into a global structure means that the global economy is highly interdependent and highly integrated. This economic form is named communism. The economy in every corner of mankind

It will take on different forms due to different conditions, but no matter what form it is, its essence is evolving in the direction of socialization and globalization. It doesn't matter what political party or doctrine you have. It is an economic law and is determined by the development requirements of productive forces.

Human beings have the instinct to seek profit." Brandy said: "The socialized economy is the market economy, but it is called differently. If regional market economies can be called socialism, then are all market economy countries socialist?"

Ye YeNong did not directly answer Brandy's question, but asked: "What is a human being?"

Brandi said: "Seek advantages and avoid disadvantages."

Ye Zi Nong said: "I am stronger than you. I am nobler, richer, and more glorious than you... In the final analysis, I have to be stronger than you. Only when I am stronger than you can I be practical. This is the driving force of human beings. So.

, Respect and care become morality, and the one who can make all living beings equal is not humans, it is Buddha, it is Christ. The nature of capital is to pursue profit, and the currency, technology, information... including everything such as youth, beauty and strong physique

It is people who convert everything that can be used into capital. The market economy is the law of the jungle. When social contradictions evolve to the point where no one can live a secure life, the order of survival and the requirements for productivity will give rise to new rules that are suitable for them, that is, based on the state

It is a social mechanism in which the will intervenes and regulates the market economy and social distribution. Dogmatic socialism thinks that it will be fine if capital is eliminated. In fact, it has nothing to do with capital. The driving force of the law of the jungle is human beings. If human beings are restrained, the economy

There is no vitality. The disintegration of the Soviet Union and China's reform both exist as effects and need no argument. The socialized economy is not only the economy, not only the form and structure of capital, not only the form of ownership, not only the will of capital, not only the market economy...

…Capital has laws. Use the laws of capital to coordinate social relations, constantly liberate productive forces, and people can live and work in peace and contentment. This is a socialized economy, and Marx does not have the socialism that we can clearly see more than 14 years later. People can do whatever they like based on their own likes and dislikes.

Don’t call it socialism. Human beings cannot be trapped by a bunch of nouns. There is no need to argue about a bunch of nouns. In fact, they are just a bunch of symbols. Those who pay attention to the essence will not care what it is called.”

Brandy said: "It is a fact that the world economy is becoming increasingly integrated. We don't have to care what the name of that development direction is. The Communist Party can call it the ruins of highly developed capitalism, and Western politics can call it the free world. We

Let’s call it communism for the time being. Since no one can win it through hard work, and the more than seven years of struggle history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union has proved this, then does the communist ideal still have value? Does the Communist Party still have the legal basis for its existence? The Soviet Union

Both the Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party relied on the promise of communism to seize power. Did that deceive the people? If the CCP regime that has lost the legal basis for its existence can only be maintained by state machinery, is this a dictatorship or tyranny?"

Ye Zinong said: "If you only regard the communist movement as the Communist Party's attempt to seize power, it would be narrow-minded. The benefits of democracy are not so powerful. The most essential thing is that social contradictions have intensified to the point of needing change. Human beings are out of control.

A Marx is accidental, social contradictions are inevitable, and the "Communist Manifesto" itself is the product of social contradictions. Without Marxism, there would be this doctrine and that doctrine, and without the Communist Party, there would be this party and that party, all of which would explode.

.If the social contradictions in the United States have not intensified to that extent, those doctrines will not work. If they are really that effective, then the flag of communism should be flying everywhere in New York and Paris. I dare not ignore history and say that the Communist Party has deceived the people.

It has indeed established a society that is almost close to the limit of equality in human history. Today we can sit here and say that the social model sculpted according to dogma will not work no matter who blows it.

Vitality. But there is a process for human beings to understand the truth. If we are not on opposite sides, we have to admit that it was an unprecedented scale of human pursuit of a better society. For me personally, I would like to call it

Great practice.”

"That sounds very Communist," Brandy said.

Ye Zinong said: "If it is the truth of cause and effect, what does it matter whether I am a Communist or not?"

Brandi said: "I'm sorry. You continue."

Ye Zinong said: "Can anyone give me an example of a country whose political power is not maintained by state machinery? Let's replace the word state machinery with force, which is more naked. If the political power can be maintained by force alone,

There would be no dynastic changes in history, and there would be no disintegration of a military power like the Soviet Union. No matter what political party or doctrine you belong to, as long as it is a national policy that goes against the basic national conditions, you will be eliminated. I don’t know what you think about China

How much do you know about history? Confucian culture is the culture with the deepest roots, the greatest influence, and the longest penetration time in China. The reason why it has such strong vitality has its own reason, because it adapts to the productivity requirements of the imperial power system and the small peasant economy, but when it comes to industry

In the era of revolution and capital economy, it is no longer able to carry modern industrial civilization. The United States is a country of immigrants with a collection of various values. There is no deep-rooted unified culture, so it is difficult to understand what the deep-rootedness of a culture means to a nation. China only

We can stand on this cultural soil and move towards industrial civilization. If Confucian culture works and liberates productivity, who dares to bully such a big country? The historical fact is that between this doctrine and that doctrine, China's national conditions chose Marxism. This

It’s not because the Communist Party is competing to see who can fight, it’s about the social foundation, just as the social foundation of the United States determines the social form of the United States.”

Brandi said: "I don't understand Chinese history, nor can I say I understand Chinese culture, but historical facts are not necessarily historical inevitability. I don't deny that the United States also has many social problems, but I think the American democratic system is the best that mankind has ever known.

The most advanced system ever achieved. What is the core of Marxism? Why can’t China choose democracy? If Marxism has no value, then what is the legal basis for the existence of the CCP?”

Ye Zinong said: "At this moment, I really want to join some kind of party. I'll avoid any suspicion before I answer your question, otherwise you will say that I am a Communist again. Whoever answers your question truthfully is a Communist."

Brandi asked: "Why?"

Ye Zinong said: "It took eight years from the founding of the Communist Party of China in 2001 to the rule in 1949. What kind of chance or luck can allow you to encounter it for eight consecutive years? Is there still an effect without a cause in this world? China's economy and development

There is indeed a big gap between countries, but can all the bad debts before 1949 be transferred to the CCP's accounts? If not, are you blaming the CCP? Or are you blaming China's traditional culture and history? Is this right?

Son, are you not afraid of offending the people?"
To be continued...
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