"Mr. Sha, is this your understanding of the word "people's livelihood" in state-owned enterprises?" Wang Fan refused to give up.

"Well, there are some things that need to be supplemented. If the attributes of our state-owned enterprises are becoming more and more important, and even if the national and social attributes are gradually being stripped away, should we make some compensation for their previous efforts? For example, the company is now completely introduced to the market and needs to be in line with the market economy, but the original employees are unable to adapt in the short term and may face various problems."

Sha Zhengyang was extremely serious and very serious when talking about this issue.

In the past life, the state-owned enterprise reforms from 1998 to 2002 did achieve great achievements, which can be said to be a phoenix nirvana.

Without this round of state-owned enterprise reform, there would be no future basis for China's economy to improve.

But to be honest, the state still has shortcomings when considering its negative impact.

This may be the limitation of the times, and no one has encountered such a situation. In Sha Zhengyang's current view, it could have been better from the perspective of policy guarantees and social security at the level of people's livelihood.

"The combination of these role changes may bring a huge impact on the entire society. This is not a small problem, but a very complex and huge systemic problem. The central government needs to consider it seriously and seriously and draw a bottom line for them to maintain their survival and dignity. This bottom line should be guaranteed by the central government."

This is another shocking view, which has greatly exceeded the perspective of being an enterprise and has risen to a very high level, from the country and from the central government!

As if he noticed that his topic was offside, Sha Zhengyang stopped slightly.

"Sorry, I'm a little excited, and the topic is a bit far-reaching. The main reason is that Changchuan Industrial (Group) Co., Ltd., where I work, is about to face such a huge challenge. Once the tertiary industry business of the three major coal industries is completed, the number of employees of Changchuan Industrial will exceed 10,000, and the competition for the management team is only the first step. And as far as I know, all teams participating in the competition have proposed measures to reduce staff and increase efficiency and eliminate redundant staff, and the minimum standard is to eliminate more than 20%. This means that more than 2,500 employees will leave their existing jobs, and the pillars of 2,500 families have lost their income. So how much impact will this have on these 2,500 families?"

"If there is no institutional systemic policy to guarantee the bottom line and no practical solution to solve their future employment and survival problems, this will greatly damage the prestige and image of our party and government in a huge group like them and even the family members behind them, and will also bring huge stability pressure to the entire society. This should not be underestimated."

"Is this the people's livelihood issue you mentioned?" Chu Yulin nodded and asked, "Do you think the government should make more contributions in this regard?"

"Well, it involves a huge group, that is, people's livelihood issues, and their interests will be damaged. Although this is for the sake of better in the future, the reality before them is that their interests have been damaged. So how the country can help them get out of the predicament, avoid the intensification of social contradictions, and pass this transition period as smoothly as possible is very critical."

Sha Zhengyang looked up, as if thinking about something, "So we also mentioned this in the competition rules. The more jobs you can provide, the more jobs you can digest and absorb more jobs and avoid layoffs, the better the score will be. Of course, this will definitely conflict with the revenue and profit targets you set in the plan. It depends on how your team can achieve the best balance."

*******

Leaving Sha Zhengyang's office, Chu Yulin and Wang Fan returned to their hotel and began to organize their respective interview information.

I have been in Wuhan for more than a week. An article I originally thought could be completed in three to five days now seems to be getting bigger and bigger, and the topic sensitivity is getting higher and higher.

This is a good thing, but it also means it is more difficult.

High sensitivity makes it easier to attract attention, but it also means that the greater the intensity of the scrutiny you have to endure, how to grasp this scale will test the political wisdom of the operator.

Dongyuan Hotel is a hotel that is booked every time Chu Yulin and Wang Fan come to Handu.

Although it is a three-star hotel, it is located a bit remote and is located in the eastern suburbs, so the passenger flow is not large, the environment is relatively quiet, and the service quality is also good. This has become what Chu Yulin and Wang Fan value the most.

Chu Yulin silently listened to the content recorded in the recording pen twice, and then began to look for key segments in his notebook to summarize, and then chewed carefully on some important golden sentences and words to understand their meaning.

Doing such interviews with more political significance requires repeated tempering and consideration.

Because the interviewee answers improvised based on his own question, it is inevitable that some topics will have personal emotions and tendencies. If it does not affect the principle, it can of course be used. However, if it may bring some unnecessary misunderstandings, it must be modified again and found some more constructive and active sentences to change. Of course, this also requires the consent of the interviewee.

Wang Fan’s working methods are slightly different.

He values ​​what he records more, especially the questions he has asked after he has considered them specifically. The other party answers questions that are quite personalized or special, which is what he values ​​most.

He is not interested in the answers to the conventional topics that follow the crowd, and it can be obtained in anyone's mouth. Some people are even much higher than Sha Zhengyang and have much more topicality, but the answers are meaningless.

Wang Fan and Chu Yulin both have their own emphasis in the interview. Wang Fan prefers some sharp and controversial questions and topics, and will also try to guide each other's answers to find some more impactful and challenging answers. This is also a more in-depth article written by the duo.

Chu Yulin's problem is more inclined to be politically correct and broad, so as to ensure that the article can be published. Otherwise, as a reporter from Xinhua News Agency, you can't even do this. I'm afraid that you may not even give it to the media, let alone the articles, and even get such an interview opportunity.

So the combination of Chu Yulin and Wang Fan was well combined, and the degree was well grasped, which ultimately made the two feel like a gold medal combination.

Seeing Wang Fan biting the pen again, this was a manifestation of Wang Fan falling into a deep state of thought. Chu Yulin smiled. Often, this kind of action means that the things that were finally obtained in this interview will definitely be topical and impactful.

Chu Yulin likes such results. Mediocre things can be found everywhere. Three hundred and sixty-five days a year, both of them are looking for good topics most of the time, but in the past year, there are only two or three articles that can really stir up shock and debate. Sometimes, it is even more difficult to encounter a good topic after years. If you encounter a good topic, you can finally publish it successfully.

But this time Chu Yulin felt that there was a chance to make a comeback and won praise for the two of them again.

My partner is of high level of impact on topics, but whether you can ensure that you pass the line and publish it depends on your own grasp of the rhythm scale.

Before coming to the interview, Chu Yulin and Wang Fan also did enough preliminary preparations, otherwise they would not have come.

Once the youngest deputy division-level cadre and the youngest county magistrate of Hanchuan Province, he created the largest non-state-owned enterprise group in Hanchuan Province, and also promoted the restructuring of the enterprise. Now he has become a member of the team of the largest state-owned enterprise group in Hanchuan Province. The overseas strategy promoted has been highly praised by the leaders of the State Council.

It is already rare for one of these titles to fall on someone, but it falls on someone, which makes people look at you sideways.

"Afan, how about it? Is the topic good this time?"

Chu Yulin is from Guangdong. Although he has lived in Yanjing for many years and his accent has changed, he still likes to follow the style of his hometown in terms of title. He thinks this is more intimate.

"Brother Chu, it's not good, but very good. I haven't met such a sharp person in a few years. Not only do I think beyond my power, but I also dare to say it."

Wang Fan kept marking with the pen in his hand, adding some content, some of which were some of his own supplements, and some of which were some narration introductions.

"I dare to say that I have talked with You Wangang and Zhong Guangbiao before. They are a little worried that Sha Zhengyang's language is too sharp, so they repeatedly asked them to review it before publishing. I agree, but this time, I may disappoint them." Chu Yulin's lips showed a smug smile.

"Oh? Brother Chu is going to risk offending Hanchuan Province?"

Wang Fan raised his eyebrows. It seemed that Brother Chu could not hold back his eyes when he had not achieved better results in the past two or three years. Now he finally encountered an opportunity, so of course he had to take it to the extreme.

"It's not a question of offending, right?" Chu Yulin's eyes narrowed slightly, and there was a little coldness in the corners of his eyes. "I have sought Sha Zhengyang's own opinions. He doesn't think his own opinions are ruthless. Even if some opinions may be controversial, he also agrees with my opinion, that is, controversiality can attract the attention and attention of the above, and he thinks it is worth it."

Chu Yulin's last tone became much deeper, and his expression became even more serious and solemn.
Chapter completed!