Chapter 414 How did ancient Greek democracy collapse?
Since the Peloponnese War is a war, it depends on strategy and tactics. It is usually like this, but the tactical strategy and heroic battles in this war are of no use at all.
In fact, what influenced the outcome of the Peloponnese War was in the court, that is, the political system, because of this!
Since it is history, everyone should know the result, that is, after this war, the Athenian city-state collapsed and the democratic system of ancient Greece disappeared!
That is, from then on, Europe began its autocratic system. Of course, some people will say, isn’t there a republic? Ancient Rome was a republic? Isn’t it a republic? Is it a republic? Is it a republic?
But in fact, the two words republic and democracy are not together or even opposite!
Because the so-called republic refers to the republic among the nobles. They jointly manage the country, but only make a separation from the monarchy. Yes, they have no relationship with the people. This is the original meaning of republic.
Therefore, the two parties in the United States, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, are the two opposing parties. The Republican Party, this shows that we are a political party composed of people from the upper class, we are the rightists and the big rightists!
But then again, why did democracy fail?
Could it be that the opponent of the ancient Athenian city-state is too powerful?
This has to be said from the beginning. When talking about this history, we have to start with the two famous battles of winning with less and more. One is the Warriors of Hot Spring Pass, and the other is the Battle of Salami. These two battles were actually fought with the Persians.
But the Persians took all their wealth, so after fighting with the Persians, the ancient Greeks sent out... The ancient Greece at that time was quite funny. In fact, it was a consortium of various city-states, not the form of the United States... After the war, Greece became awesome, rich, and strong.
Then there were two powerful groups in ancient Greece, one was Athens, she brought a bunch of younger brothers, and the other was Sparta. She also brought a bunch of younger brothers.
Now that the Persians are not coming, what should I do next?
Let's fight!
Yes, Athens and Sparta did not deal with each other, and the two sides began to confront each other. This confrontation was two political systems, one was the ancient democratic system of Athens, and the other was the monarchy of Sparta... At this time, Sparta no longer played with the election.
The democracy in Athens is quite interesting. A man named Cristini had carried out a reform before. In the past, there was no monarch in Greece. He had a leader, but everyone was not convinced. So, if he didn't agree, we just chose it.
Cristini carried out reforms. This is really a democratic reform. Simply put, the entire right is for citizens, which is a citizen conference. This conference is considered the highest authority, but this conference... 50,000 or 60,000 people!
You know, this is more than two thousand years ago, you held a conference of 50,000 or 60,000 people, and this conference is held every few days. What is the situation?
There are only so many people, nothing is done, and they just hold meetings all day long. Isn’t this a waste of national food?
Even if you don’t waste food, these 50,000 or 60,000 people are really a big gathering of all classes in Greece at that time. And this is not over yet. Just to avoid a powerful figure, Cristini also made a design, which is the ‘Shell Anti-Exile Method’!
Simply put, when the consul has reached a certain day, everyone will take a shell and write the name of your favorite consul on it, and then start counting, whoever has the most names will get out!
Yes, that was the way Mistokli, who performed very well in the Battle of Salami, was exiled.
This system prevents the emergence of dictators, but also makes the elite unable to come out. The better you do, the more miserable you will die...
To be honest, if you look at this history here, you should have seen the disadvantages of the ancient Greek democratic system. However, the exile method is still different from the current situation. We will not do this now. However, the subsequent performance basically shows all the problems of the democratic system!
First of all, how did the Peloponnese War fight come into being? Didn’t peace be needed?
Yes, this person is Nissus, this person is very powerful, very talkative, and very rich.
Of course, there are also pro-war factions, and this person is called Aesipid. He is also very rich and very talkative.
Then, in order to ask the Citizens' Congress to support them, that is, give them the rights, they both did a lot of things.
For the sake of the Lord, Nesias built a colossus of the sun god on an island. Look, everyone is looking at the statue of the god. This statue is so peaceful and so sacred... Let's worship God, what else can we fight?!
This is the subtext. Everyone looks at the statue of the gods and go play.
Naasibid is not a fuel-efficient lamp. When you see that you, Nisius, are you rich!
Olympic Games!
Yes, this Yaspied united with some rich people to hold the Olympics. The meaning of this Olympics is simple. You see, we Athenians are not weak, we are also strong and afraid of birds! The Spartans are nothing!
Both sides were really having fun. At the beginning of the war, Athens and Sparta were in a confrontation, and the commander of Athens was Pericle, who was very famous. He was very good at both military achievements and governance. The Acropolis in Athens was like the ancient building of the Zodiac Palace in Saint Seizures, which was built by him, but... this guy was rather unlucky. He died of illness after two years of confrontation.
Pericles died of illness, so this battle must be fought. Yes? Yes, no, we Athenians are afraid of him! That person, Nesias, it’s your fault, you go to be the commander!
Niceas, he is a peacemaker, but in the end, he asked him to be the head coach at the Citizens' Conference. I like this guy.
A peacemaker was forced to the battlefield. This is the power of democracy...
This is one of many mistakes made by the ancient Greek democracy. That's all.
Later, when fighting a naval battle, the sea power in Athens was strong and the Persian army was defeated by them, but they could not withstand the voting of the people of the Citizens' Congress. Until the end, eight generals who could fight were left, and these eight generals did not take back the bodies of their soldiers because of the wind. To be honest, it was understandable. But the Citizens' Congress voted and executed all eight people!
Because of this, a committee was established, so you can find a way to kill these eight people and think of some tricks!
Don't obey? Don't want to kill them?
OK, you can die with them!
There was the old man in this committee, Socrates. Socrates finally voted against him, and he opposed it. Later, he often told others, "How can we rule us by the mob?"... So, the old man was also voted to death!
Destroy the Great Wall. And there are many similar things...
The Yassibide also went to fight, but the result was average. When the Citizens' Conference saw you, you shouted that you were capable, but you became timid as soon as you went to the battlefield. So the Citizens' Conference issued an order.
Yasipid, come back! When we come back, we cut your head!
This is really the meaning, it's so weird. Nassipid is not an idiot, so he directly defected to Sparta.
That's all, just these people, 50,000 or 60,000 people in the Citizens' Conference, play with their own rights all day long, and end up dying!
Finally, Nissias, the Lord and the Sect, was like a gambler, sent out all his troops in a battle, and then... nothing happened!
In the end, the Acropolis in Athens was destroyed and the entire city defense was demolished. In Greece, Sparta, the autocratic system, defeated democracy!
Simply put, the manifestations of the democracy system in this period in ancient Greece were really disgusting, and it was simply unbearable. It was like a bunch of fools trying to die, but...
Think about it carefully, in Athens, there was a civic conference of 50,000 or 60,000 people with his little brothers. So how can there be less stupid people in this conference?
Moreover, in the 19th century, the proportion of scholars today was not high, and Europe and the United States were better, let alone the Qing Dynasty.
In itself, politics determines the directional issue of a country, and this kind of problem naturally requires the right direction. You have to make the right choice, but it is determined by a group with a majority and low cultural level. This is very contradictory in itself!
For Li Mengyang, in layman's terms, it will definitely lead to a situation where "IQ is lowered".
It's like, what you want is to solve very complex and difficult problems, but you don't look for a good student, but instead go to a poor student. The crane is at the end. Even if it's a better situation, you look for a master and a poor student together, but the answer must be to take the intermediate value!
So in this way, democracy is really just as Rousseau said. It never exists, and it will never exist in the future?
No!
Li Mengyang knew very well that democracy is definitely a major trend. This is an inevitable trend in the development of human society. No one can change it. Just talk about this trend. The reason is very simple. With the popularization of education, the mastery of knowledge among all the people in society has increased. In the past, there were many fools, but in the future, there were many smart people... Well, the words are rough but not rough...
In other words, through the popularization of education, the progress of culture, our human knowledge and progress in all aspects, the result must be to develop towards democracy.
Therefore, Li Mengyang really likes democracy, but he also knows that if he engages in that kind of democracy at this stage, he will definitely die miserably.
Li Mengyang has a very thorough understanding of all this. After all, he is engaged in sociology. However, when the writer Mark Twain came to study this history, there was not much information, and it was indeed less, because after the Enlightenment Thought Movement, the word democracy was increasingly beautified. Don’t worry if it was to cheat votes or something, the Democratic Party has come out anyway, right?
But Mark Twain discovered something else!
"Oh! Your Majesty is really great! My knowledge is still not enough. Compared with Your Majesty, I am simply too bad! But from this point of view, Your Majesty is really in line with what Plato said. Your Majesty is simply..."
What exactly did Mark Twain develop?
In addition, why did Plato be involved? This philosopher seems to be a student of Socrates?! (To be continued...)
Chapter completed!