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Chapter 32 Discussion II

If one admires and regrets Xu Jie of the Beiyang Navy, Xu Jie only has contempt for the Beiyang Land Division. Although the former also has various bad habits, there is also a situation where the training level has declined in the later period and the fleet is divided into cliques and opponents.

But judging from the current national conditions and the performance of the Beiyang Fleet, the Beiyang Navy under the leadership of Ding Ruchang and Liu Buchan really fought to the last moment. After being selectively ignored or even abandoned by the decadent Qing Dynasty, the Beiyang Navy still fought on both land and sea.

They chose to resist. In the entire war, more than half of the senior generals of the Beiyang Navy were killed in battle or committed suicide after defeat. This proportion is quite rare in the history of the world's navy. As for the Beiyang Army, except for a few generals

, except for a very few people such as Nie Shicheng, Zuo Bagui, Ma Yukun, Xu Bangdao, etc., I am afraid that other people can only be described as constantly "transferring in".

Therefore, if Xu Jie was only speaking objectively when talking about the naval strength of China and Japan, when he evaluated the armies of China and Japan, the extreme hatred in Xu Jie's words shocked Xue Fuchengdu secretly.

"On paper, the Qing Army's regiments and regiments cannot exceed one million. But in fact, if something happens, how many troops can be used?" Xu Jie couldn't help but have a sneer on his face.

"The regular army, the Eight Banners Soldiers and the Green Battalion have little hope. Those gentlemen spend far more time on smoking guns than on rifles. Nearly half of them are gone. The provinces are the only ones that really have a certain combat capability.

training," Xu Jie said without caring about the embarrassment on Xue Fucheng's face.

"Then, the Qing Dynasty was divided into Beiyang and Nanyang. Once a war broke out, the Beiyang navy basically had no chance of winning. Nanyang would not be able to mobilize if it wanted to, and if it had to go overland, it would not be easy to mobilize a large number of troops based on the traffic conditions of the Qing Dynasty.

What's more, Zhang Zhidong, Liu Kun and others in Nanyang are afraid that Beiyang will be beaten to pieces?" The strangeness on Xu Jie's face made Xue Fucheng's heart tighten.

"Sir, what you said is wrong. Both Beiyang and Nanyang are the masters of the imperial court. Mr. Zhang will not ignore the importance." After hearing Xu Jie's words, Xue Fucheng replied with a pale face.

"Even if Mr. Zhang is willing to provide assistance, with the sea route cut off, how many armies and required logistics can be transported by the Qing Dynasty to the battlefield far away in the northeast?" Xu Jie asked rhetorically.

"But with the combat power of our Beiyang Army Division, we may be able to fight." Xue Fucheng paused and said.

"The strength of the First World War? What is the battle strength of Beiyang? I think your Excellency will know clearly. We can roughly list the troops that can be used in the north of the Qing Dynasty. Jilin has 34 infantry battalions and 26 horse army battalions, with a total number of about 18,000.

Fengtian has 56 infantry battalions and 21 cavalry battalions, with a total of about 25,000 people. The Zhili infantry has about 105 battalions and the cavalry has 38 battalions, with a total number of about 40,000. Note that these are all the armies of each province, not all.

Maybe they will be put directly into the front line. Now let’s talk about the Japanese Army.” Xu Jie paused and said.

"I would like to hear the details." Xue Fucheng made an inviting gesture.

"The field force has 6 divisions and Guards divisions. Each field division has 12 infantry brigades (the Guards division has 8 brigades), 3 cavalry squadrons, 6 artillery squadrons (4 field artillery squadrons, 2 mountain artillery squadrons, and close range artillery squadrons).

The Guards Division only has 4 squadrons of field artillery), 2 squadrons of engineers (1 squadron of the Guards Division), attached agencies and baggage. The total number of personnel is 18,492 (Guards 12,095), horses 5,633 (Guards 4,211), and combat infantry 9,600 (

Guards 5760), 303 cavalry, 24 field artillery, 12 mountain artillery (the Guards Division has no mountain artillery). The total field strength of the 7th Division is 123047 people, 38009 horses, 63360 combat soldiers, 2121 cavalry, 168 field artillery, 72 mountain artillery. Guards

The reserve force includes the 12th Infantry Regiment, the 24th Independent Brigade, 6th Cavalry Squadron, 6th Artillery Squadron, and 12th Engineer Squadron. The Tuntian Corps includes 6th Infantry Brigade, 1 Cavalry, 1 Artillery, and 1 Engineer Squadron. The total number of mobilization personnel is 220,580.

, 47,221 mules and horses, and 294 mountain field guns. And the corresponding Beiyang Army only has about 50,000 people? From a quantitative point of view, there is already a gap between the front-line troops of China and Japan." Xu Jie said.

"Let's talk about the equipment gap between the two sides. As an elite division in the Beiyang, Sheng Jun has very good rifles. The infantry uses American Hotchkiss six-shot breech-loading rifles and single-shot rifles, and the cavalry uses Winchester (

The 13-shot breech carbine (formerly translated as Yun Zhe Shi De) is very good in terms of performance and is more advanced than Japan's Murata rifle, but in terms of artillery, it is far inferior to Japan. A Japanese division has 24 field guns.

There are 12 mountain artillery pieces. The former has a maximum range of 5 kilometers, and the latter has a maximum range of 3 kilometers. The Beiyang artillery emphasizes lightness. Only 16 of the 35 artillery pieces of the Sheng Army are standard field artillery. The rest are either 37mm hill guns.

The artillery is either an 11mm machine gun. An artillery team of this size can only be used to suppress bandits and fight the Japanese, which is undoubtedly a fantasy. And this is still the elite of Beiyang. If it were used for military training in other provinces, it is estimated that even

Why don't you use it. And below the level of military training, there are probably many people who use spears, swords and spears?" Xu Jie sneered.

"The bigger gap is the army system and the quality of the soldiers on both sides. The current Beiyang March was born out of the Huai Army. Apart from replacing a batch of foreign guns and cannons, what is the difference with the old Huai Army? There is no Western-style staff system.

, there is no modern logistics system. The old organization makes the engine control in the battle chaotic and the scale is too small to complete the set tasks. And more importantly, the army may not even know why it is fighting?" Xu Jie said slowly.

"It was for the imperial court and the Qing Dynasty." Xue Fucheng said dissatisfiedly after hearing the last sentence.

"If it is really for the imperial court and the Qing Dynasty, what if the military discipline is lax and the pay is empty? What if the people are vicious and abnormal, if they encounter foreign enemies, they flee one after another, what is that? If it is really as your Excellency said,

How can I get the truth about the Qing Army so easily?" In order to better achieve his goal, Xu Jie unceremoniously used his advantage as a time traveler and uploaded the data he had seen.

"It seems that our Daqing Water and Land Division has no chance of winning?" Xue Fucheng said with some fear.

"I have always wanted to find a reason why the Qing Dynasty could defeat Japan, but I can never find it." Xu Jie said with regret on his face. "And what we just talked about is just a matter of strategy compared to the strategy of governing the country.

Just some details. Compared with the more than 30 years of Westernization Movement in Beiyang, Japan's 20-year reform has better results and is more thorough." Xu Jie said in his heart. Originally, Xu Jie planned to explain it from the perspective of the country's system, but it seems

It was already too late. What's more, it was impossible to determine whether Xue Fucheng agreed with him on the democratic government. Therefore, based on the principle that the purpose had been achieved and doing more was better than doing less, Xu Jie decided that today's long talk was enough. The two chatted again.
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