Weiyang Palace, Shiqu Pavilion.

When Li Su and Zhong Yao walked and talked into the house, Liu Bei was already there, and Xun You and Liu Ba gave him a seat and had already started chatting there.

After all, Liu Bei is still a prince now, so he does not have to go to court to deal with national affairs. When encountering secret matters, he will call a few professional and counterparts to discuss it.

Seeing Li Su, Liu Bei stood up casually and pointed at him and joked: "Boya, you have left Gongda and the others in Chang'an in the past six months, and you have worked hard. If you hadn't sent this "A brief discussion on renting, mediocre and transferring the law" in advance, it would have been a good idea. We would have suspected that you were lazy and negligent."

Li Su didn't argue with Liu Bei, and smiled and followed Liu Bei's words: "I can travel around and be lazy and negligent. First, I check for omissions and make up for the shortcomings, and second, I am also peaceful in the world? I have this opportunity to be lazy and lazy. If it is a critical situation, I am afraid I want to be lazy and unattainable."

Not to mention, this response was very appropriate, and a subconscious mind was conveyed in secret:

I, Li Su, is already in high position and powerful under the command of the king, and I obey the rules. I took a vacation to consider some big strategies, which would also give others the opportunity to show off. If there are other daily sudden tasks in the past six months and others handle them well, wouldn’t it be a good thing to gain exposure?

This also shows that Li Su does not take over power or is not authoritarian.

Going farther away, when Emperor Wu of Han was written clearly in "Biography of Wei Qiwu'anhou":

Wei Qihou (Dou Ying) attacked Wu'an Hou (Tian Fen) and was "greedy, lazy and lazy". Wu'an Hou's counterattack was: I am so lazy because the world is peaceful. Not like you, even though the world is so peaceful, I still "prepare for the future" every day, and even thought of an emergency plan such as "If Your Majesty has a chance, how should the court respond?"

To put it more closely, big bosses like Ren Zhengfei rarely handle daily affairs in their later years. They always go to seclusion and study there or inspect everywhere but only watch but not do it. They observe for a year and a half and hold up a big move. This is called having a realm.

Liu Bei was also joking with Li Su, and he didn't argue much, so he quickly got to the point: "Your rent-in-one adjustment and rent-in-one reduction benefits, and I have roughly understood the benefits of rent-in-one reduction.

However, you can't report good news or bad news. Over the past month, we have discussed many times, and we have summarized several risks of implementing the reform of renting, mediocre transfer and loss. Since Boya, you are back, you can explain it in a concentrated manner. If it is indeed feasible, it will be immediately promulgated to Beidi County, Yinchuan County and Hedong County. Maybe we can catch up with Yide and Boqi's counterattack against Hetao."

Li Su also accepted the joke expression and bowed seriously: "That's natural. Please ask the king and all your peers for any questions. I should know everything."

Liu Bei returned to his desk and gave Xun You and Liu Ba and others a gesture, and then Xun You was the first to speak.

When Li Su saw Xun You first said, he was a little surprised because he felt that Liu Ba’s position was more appropriate, he was a senior farmer, and it was the reform of the renting and mediocre adjustment method implemented by Liu Ba and Li Su.

Now I have to add a word after "Renting and Ordinary Registration" to become "Renting and Ordinary Registration". Why not let Liu Ba evaluate it? He should be the one who knows the pros and cons the most.

However, in just a moment, Li Su roughly guessed Liu Bei's intention: Liu Ba would probably play the job of raising hatred from the outside and pulling away the hatred value of the vested interest class before the reform. Therefore, Liu Ba cannot play the role of "strong advice and obstruction", but should be a tinkerer. Even if Liu Ba sees the disadvantages, he still has to use other people's words to say it.

In this way, Xun You and Zhong Yao are today's opposition, Liu Ba and Li Su are the positive side. Moreover, Li Su is the positive side's first debater, and Liu Ba is the one who summarizes the statements when checking for omissions and filling in the gaps.

After all, after winning the debate competition, the hatred of the people who were dissatisfied with the results was generally gathered on the winner's summary of Chen Ci.

Xun You pointed out: "After we discussed, we felt that the court also included the standard price of freight in taxes and labor service. The biggest risk was that it gave local officials room for corruption and fraud, which would lead to a decrease in the food that the court could dispatch."

Li Su sincerely guided: "Why do you feel so? Can you give an example?"

Zhong Yao coughed lightly and took over the topic: "Let me say so, for example, according to the guide price you proposed by Boya, you can transport one stone and one mile from the shipping fee on the plains. However, it is uncertain how much grain stored in each county and county in the local area is, and how far away each warehouse is from the destination where the imperial court issued a dispatch order, and there is room for fake accounts in the local area.

Let’s take a county with a vast land and sparsely populated area as an example. For example, there are seven county warehouses in Wuwei County. Now, for the sake of war, we have to transport grain to Yinchuan County. The closest warehouse to Yinchuan County may be only 800 miles, of which 600 miles can still be used to take the Yellow River and the waterway, and the freight rate is low.

But Wuwei County itself is vast, covering an area of ​​more than 300 miles east and west. The most remote county may be 1,100 miles away from Yinchuan County, and 600 miles of water and 500 miles by land. In this way, the shipping price of the most remote county in Wudu to Yinchuan County is nearly twice the shipping price of the recent county to Yinchuan County.

After this law is implemented, local governments will definitely try to cheat every year, and it is roughly speculated that if the imperial court wants to dispatch local food in the future, it will mainly allocate in that direction. Then, when they actually collect rents and transfers, they have planned to collect more heavy grain in counties near distances, less silk and less corvee, and less grain in counties far from the transportation destination.

In fact, the accounts reported to the court were that each county collected money and grain equally, and even deliberately made a statement to achieve a "cost harvest in remote counties, more grain was collected. If the nearby counties were poor, less grain was collected. In this way, when the imperial court remitted food and grass, they could nominally ship from faraway counties, and actually shipped from near counties. However, according to the shipping report of the remote county, the court reported the freight fee and gave less grain. If this hole was opened, the disaster of bullying the superiors and concealing the subordinates was afraid of being repeatedly banned!"

After hearing this, Li Su also touched her sighing stubborn stubborn.

Xun You and Zhong Yao are indeed not low in intelligence, especially Zhong Yao is good at civil affairs and internal affairs. He has a very thorough thinking about how civil officials will try to exploit loopholes to engage in private fraud.

I gave them more than a month to figure out the pros and cons, and they had already thought clearly about "if I was the prefect, how could I cheat and take advantage of the situation."

This is also impossible to completely avoid. After all, unless it is directly advanced to the big data era, such a thing that takes advantage of losses will not be eliminated even in the 20th century.

Li Su sighed and said, "So, do you think it is better to have a one-size-fits-all approach that is the original one-size-fits-all approach of 'the court only asks the results and not asks about the specific difficulties in the implementation process'?"

Xun You: "At least, there is no need to listen to the arguments of the counties below. As long as the result is, the officials can do it. In previous years, the corvee and grain transport issued by the court in the past, there were no difficulties? Didn't local officials try their best to overcome it?"

Li Su: "But it is precisely because he did not listen to the explanation and asked to overcome that the traditional way of rule could only rule so far! Why did the ministers and ministers in the court persuaded His Majesty to give up Liangzhou or even Guanzhong? It is because the mountains and remote places were dangerous and remote, and taxes and food were no longer transported! Or if the local officials had to transport them in full and not listen to the explanation, the local people could not bear the loss and rebel!

Therefore, the ministers and ministers in the court felt that as long as there is a plain in Henan and Hebei in the world, it would be enough. Anyway, those places are convenient for transportation. After collecting taxes and grains, the people would spend some effort to transport them to Luoyang. The people could barely bear this kind of exploitation and would not rebel. Otherwise, they would retreat directly to the feudal system in the pre-Qin period.

Why did the Emperor of Zhou enfeoffed the princes? It was not because the daily property from the place far away from the capital was not even one percent of the capital. The Emperor of Zhou was directly under the jurisdiction of the capital, so it would be better to give it to the princes. At least the grain from various places should be transported to the capital of the princes nearby, and there was no obligation to transport it to the two capitals. The princes should pay a tribute to a little value density, and they would not be afraid of the rare treasures transported thousands of miles to the Emperor of Zhou.

History has long proved that the convenience of transportation technology and systems determines the vastness of the country's direct rule. Therefore, it is better to expect less materials for border counties and states, even if they are given space for operation than to mix up with the old law. "The loss of grain transportation should be cut off" can certainly be solemn military law and strengthen the potential of wartime dispatch, but if you are not careful, Chen Sheng and Wu Guang will be forced out."

If you fail to kill the deadline, you can force you to have a single person at most. Although it is also disgusting, your destructive power is indeed not as good as Chen Sheng and Wu Guangda.

Li Su's last words made Liu Bei change his previous easy-going attitude. He suddenly looked sober and nodded unconsciously:

"It is true that we cannot lose the big picture because of the small. Gu Yuan had never thought about why the Han Dynasty expanded to the current territory and expanded a little more to the border areas. It would be a loss or a turbulence. The Han military is so strong, but it is in danger. According to Boya's idea, it is because of the current expropriation system that has reduced the benefits of the ruling of remote areas to the point of losing money."

From an economic perspective, how did the Han Dynasty die?

The ruling income in marginal areas is lower than the ruling cost, and the more you expand, the more you lose. When you lose money, the faster you sell, the more you lose, and you die. For example, a company that has not done a good job in cost control and combustion rates, the fuel suddenly burns out when the flame is the most intense, and instantly explodes and dies in the state of cooking oil in the most intense fire.

At this time, I will give you a set of reforms that slightly reduce the ruling benefits of marginal areas but can also greatly reduce the cost of ruling. Should I use it? Of course I will use it.

When Xun You and Zhong Yao saw Liu Bei’s statement, they also knew that Li Su’s suggestion must be very touching and could be passed, but they still had to check for omissions and fill in the gaps.

The problem cannot be ignored.

Zhong Yao continued to ask: "So, after the implementation of the new law, will the local fraud and exaggerate transportation costs be solved? "

Li Su also knew that this difficult problem could not be solved perfectly.

For example, after the cash collection in later generations, there must be fire consumption. If the court stipulated that "the fire consumption belongs to the public, don't charge the fire consumption randomly. How many points does the fire consumption count as explicit regulations of the court?", then the silver collected by the local government the next day will definitely have the problem of "in fact, the fire consumption is less, which is not enough for the actual loss when melting and casting."

Then the court will see that the cast treasury silver is insufficient - but the Qing palace drama that praises "fire consumption" as a good rule, generally does not involve this detail.

This is the case for fire consumption, this is the case for rats and birds of food, and this is the case for special losses such as "freight". It was the same in the entire ancient society.

Why save money for the country? Why save state-owned assets? As long as the loss is calculated by the court's losses, the local government will not have the enthusiasm to reduce losses, and will even take the initiative to waste it. Make false accounts, falsely report transportation mileage, and even go to the wrong way to make transportation mileage... Only by calculating losses in the local government according to the old method, the local government will strive to save and reduce losses.

On the way back, Li Su thought about this problem repeatedly. He could only say fairly: "In the end, we have to rely on rectifying the administration of officials and giving the local government less loopholes in losses. For example, don't use the county as a unit, at least the county as a unit.

Then the equivalent transportation mileage from each county to Chang'an is calculated by the court. At that time, don't worry about the county under its jurisdiction, and the freight will be calculated based on the average value. The county magistrate can find convenient transportation methods, and the freight saved is considered legally earned by the local government. In this way, it can more or less relieve the fraud of greed."

Xun You and Zhong Yao just heard about this suggestion, but it was not convenient to directly evaluate it rashly. The two of them were brainstorming, one played a corrupt official in their brains and the other played a record check, and then racked their brains to think about how to take advantage of loopholes if they were the county magistrate.

However, at first glance, Li Su's "pricing by county average freight" is indeed less room for fraud than the previous "pricing by actual freight". In addition, although the system has become stiff, the increase in cost in extreme cases is a level that the people can tolerate, so that Chen Sheng, Wu Guang or Han Sui will not be forced out.

Liu Ba, who has not been able to speak today, has been using the "account checker" thinking mode this month, so he reacted faster than Xun You and others. Inspired by Li Su at this moment, he also followed Li Su's ideas to see if there is any better and simple operation.

Liu Ba discussed with Li Su, asked this and that, asked a lot of details about the executive level, and then suddenly came up with an improved idea:

"Boya, why not do this for us - just make a map of the Han Dynasty's division of counties, and then list all the average theoretical freight costs from each county in the Han Dynasty to adjacent counties. If the court has a long-distance levy, count the several counties separated from the destination and the destination, and then connect the two points.

If you look at the cheapest line on the link, you will get the official shipping fee. Then, according to this shipping fee, you will pay the local labor service price. As long as you have the ability to do the actual shipping fee is cheaper than this guidance price, you will be considered as making a profit from the local government.

The extra money and grain will be set up by the local governments on their own. Of course, this money cannot be divided privately, but it can also be encouraged to build and optimize road conditions on their own. In this way, every transportation task of the court in the future can be transported with money lower than the court's guidance price, so that the local government can make more and more money, and continue to encourage them to use the money they have earned to build roads."

Li Su's eyes lit up: Damn! Liu Ba does have the vision of macro-control of the market economy!

He returned to the map and took a closer look. Liu Bei, Xun You and Zhong Yao also hurriedly surrounded him and gave an example to do a thought experiment.

Liu Ba also cheered up and showed his spirits and pointed, "For example, if we want to transport materials from Hepu County, Jiaozhou to Nanyang, if we connect straight lines, we need to cross the mountains and cross Nanhai County, Cangwu County, Lingling County, Wuling County, and Nanjun. This road seems to be the shortest.

But because there are many mountains and may be expensive by land, we assume that the total freight fee for the five counties across the county is 1,800 yuan. Starting from Lingling County, the Xiangjiang River route was taken, and the two counties around Guiyang and Changsha to replace Wuling land routes, it seems that there is an extra county distance, but the water transportation is cheap. The estimated total price of the six counties is 1,600 yuan, and then the final discount will be given to the local area for 1,600 yuan per stone.

If the prefect is stupid and does not know which road is the most cost-effective. If you spend 1,800 yuan in a straight line, then the extra 200 yuan is in vain and the price difference is the prefect. If the prefect is smart and courageous, you may even build a sea boat in the future, and you will not have to cross a mountain on the entire journey. You can go directly from Hepu County to the East China Sea and return to Nan County by the Yangtze River. In the end, you will only spend 700 yuan - then the 900 yuan saved will be all the local area!

In this way, can the county magistrate try his best to increase water transportation? Can he find ways to dig canals from the county to the neighboring county or dredge traditional waterways, and then set up checkpoints on the river to charge fees? Can he find ways to rectify the road and charge tolls?

Of course, the court must keep its promise. When we set the guide price, we must set the guide price according to the original transportation conditions before the construction was carried out in the local area.

In the future, the transportation conditions and road environment will be improved, and the actual transportation conditions will be improved. The court will not be able to treason and lower the guidance price. It will not be able to adjust the price for at least a few decades to ensure that all the money-saving benefits brought by the road construction will be in the local pocket."

After hearing this, Li Su sighed and said, "Zi Chu, you, a senior manager, are so competent."

Xun You was also impressed with accepting this plan, but added a detail: "The current original data, that is, how much does the actual freight cost from each county to each neighboring county, and how do we count it? Do we calculate it on the map?"

Liu Ba: "It's better to be realistic, don't just work behind closed doors. Let's calculate a set of theoretical values ​​first, so as not to be deceived and hidden. But at the same time, the imperial court also sent envoys to local counties to take samples and check the merchants from this county to neighboring counties. The actual transportation cost is the same, and it will be recorded as a guide price in the future.

If the calculations are similar to those of the corporal officials in the map, use them directly. If the entry and exit are too big, check again to see if there are any particularly steep mountains and rivers in the local area. In addition, in order to prevent the local county magistrate from reporting initial freight, when sending people to various counties for verification this time, do not explain the purpose of the visit first, and mainly conduct undercover investigations, so as not to avoid the local county magistrate buying the imperial court's censorship envoy to raise the original price."

Xun You and Zhong Yao still have some details, but after Liu Bei heard this, he felt that this matter could be set in principle:

"You will talk about the rest slowly. In principle, this matter is based on Boya's reform and Zichu's pricing plan. In addition, I will prepare a typical reform. Zichu, when you want to send someone to check the freight rates of each county, you will first send someone to follow Boya and calculate the prices of each county along the way from Chang'an to Jiaozhou.

Then, Boya, tell Zijing that he would start designing and constructing a sea ship in the East China Sea and the South China Sea as planned as the original plan. If he can reduce the freight rates of remote counties in the southern coastal areas, which is much lower than the initial theoretical price we have set for inland crossing mountains and ridges, then he will be the pioneer of reforms in the restructuring method of renting and transferring method.

I gave him the plan to be the first in the governor of various states, and transferred him back to be the Nine Ministers! Let him not worry about being too young. As long as he can be the first in the governor of various states, no one dares to question the Nine Ministers at the age of twenty-five.

In addition, the theoretical freight rates from Zichu and Sanfu to Yinchuan and Shangjun were also verified first. When transporting grain to Boqi and Yide, they will be tried according to this new law. They encourage local governments to transport grain by themselves and find ways to find ways to return the savings to the local area. Anyone who has done well will be a pioneer of reform and will be rewarded and promoted."
Chapter completed!