Chapter 38 Return after the war in Jiaozhou (71)
For Ma Chao, it is, that's right. There is no agreement in words, and he thinks it's good, yes. Without alliance, even if both parties do it in the end, no one admits it, and this matter is just like that. At least it won't be said that someone is serious about that, it's useless. It's enough to know what Ma Chao and Cao Cao mean, that's right. Since the former doesn't want it, then there is no. For the latter, he knows the former's attitude and will not force it. That's it. Cao Cao said that he was doing it right for himself and himself.
If the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, he would not force it like Ma Chao's attitude. Because in that case, it would become more harmful than the advantages, yes. So even if Cao Cao didn't do it, he would not take the initiative to do the harm than the advantages. No. Therefore, at the beginning, Ma Chao destroyed the Jiangdong Army, and then Cao Cao would lead the Yanzhou Army to fight with them to the death. That was
It is necessary. But then, once he saw that destroying the Jiangdong Army would have more benefits than disadvantages, it would definitely change. That would be true. As for Ma Chao, he did not want to unite, then there was no, and Cao Cao would not say much. As long as he got benefits and benefits, it would be enough. Even if the two armies ended up destroying the Jiangdong Army together, is that important? It doesn't really matter.
Yes, that's right. Cao Cao no longer attaches much importance to the reasons and processes, mainly because of the results. He cannot ignore them, yes. Therefore, the result directly proves how much benefit he and the Yanzhou Army can get in the end. Therefore, Cao Cao cannot say that he does not pay attention to them, so he must pay attention to them, yes. For him, what should he not do if the benefits outweigh the disadvantages? Yes, that must be. So even if it is not said that he has joined forces with the Liangzhou Army, he must destroy the Jiangdong Army, that's true. For him and the Yanzhou Army
In other words, it's not that, indeed. Therefore, if the two armies join together, the Jiangdong Army will be destroyed, and there is no chance to not be destroyed... Yes, or that's right, it's just what Sun Ce and Jiangdong Army think. Even if they just face the Liangzhou Army, their side may not necessarily be destroyed in the end. However, facing the attacks of the Liangzhou Army and the Yanzhou Army, they don't think they are
The square will not be destroyed. Although that is not absolute, nor is it certain, but it is basically certain, and it will inevitably be destroyed, and it is not said. Because they face one side, it can be said that they are a little lucky, but facing the Liangzhou army and the Yanzhou army, Sun Ce and Jiangdong army have never had any luck again, but it is not. Therefore, what strength can face the attack of the two armies? They can still not be destroyed,
They thought, but... they couldn't withstand the attack of the two armies, that's it. So when Sun Ce and Jiangdong Army came to see it, that's the worst result, it's really. And as long as they are stronger than this, it's better than this, right? So it's just that, they think so, it's good. So it doesn't matter what it looks like, Cao Cao definitely doesn't value that, he only cares about the result, that's it. The reason and process, in Cao Cao's eyes, are not as good as the result, that's right. So this
All, the result is important, then it is not. For him, the attitude of Ma Chao and Liangzhou Army is really not important. It is just that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, so he can say that he values it, otherwise he will not care about it. So this matter is like that, Cao Cao is so personal. Therefore, the result is what he values the most. Compared with this, other
It's true, that's not that important, yes. Focus on the result. Ma Chao, in general, he basically did the same, that's right. Anyway, in comparison, he must be more concerned about the result, not the cause and process. It's really not that important to compare with the result. It's not that important. It's also true that Ma Chao is more realistic, and Cao Cao is more realistic, that's right. Or to be more precise, people are very realistic, but some people are more realistic, that's right. Just say Cao Cao, he is definitely more realistic than Ma Chao, isn't it?
The more realistic thing is definitely Cao Cao, and that's not said. Yes. Ma Chao compared him with him, that's really bad, not bad. It's normal to think about it, that's who Cao Cao is? He's definitely a treacherous hero. This has been said n times, that's right. How many treacherous heroes have in history? Speaking of treacherous heroes, the first thing you think of is others besides him, Cao Cao Mengde? Is there anyone else? Even if there are, can he really compete with Cao Cao Cao Mengde? So this is, others can be in the treacherous heroes.
Who else is compared with Cao Cao? Just say who else? It seems that there is no one. In terms of the treacherous hero, that is, Cao Cao, Cao Mengde. So, right? Who else is there in history? Then it is not possible in history. In contemporary times, Ma Chao and Sun Ce, any one of them are all heroes, that's right. But none of them are treacherous heroes, even if they say they are next to each other, it's a pity that it's not.
Therefore, it is impossible to compete with Cao Cao and Cao Mengde, yes. In this regard, Ma Chao is definitely willing to give up the disadvantage. He cannot compare with Cao Cao. Just Sun Ce's words, he also knows that he is a hero at best. He is, Ma Chao and Liu Bei, but unfortunately, no one is a traitor. Only Cao Cao and Cao Mengde are indeed a traitor.
That's right. Others are not easy to use, but in this respect, they can't compare with others. That's right. Ma Chao is willing to be inferior, and Sun Ce also knows that he is not easy to use, so, the treacherous hero is not good at all. Therefore, Cao Cao, Cao Mengde, Ma Mengqi, and Sun Bofu are not good at all. If they say that, if they are all treacherous heroes, this treacherous hero will not be worth much, yes. But obviously, others are not, Cao Cao/his brother, so this... But no matter what, from the perspective of the person, Cao Cao is happy to see himself
This is true for himself. But others are not treacherous heroes, and they are not as good as themselves in this regard. Naturally, they all think it is good. That is true. Cao Cao didn't think that treacherous heroes are all good, that is not. But it can be said that most of the time, there are more benefits, isn't it? At least there are places that are better than Ma Chao, Sun Ce, and they are better than them. Doesn't it mean that? Yes, overall, they have more of themselves.
It is true that the place is not as good as Ma Chao. But many places surpass Sun Ce, that's right, yes. So it's still the same. Overall, Ma Chao is stronger than Cao Cao, and Cao Cao is a little stronger than Sun Ce, yes. Therefore, in this case, Cao Cao doesn't think there is anything wrong with the treacherous hero. Anyway, it's more good, that's fine. For him, the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
That is actually enough, yes. So he thought it was good to Cao Cao, yes. Maybe it might change when it comes to Ma Chao and Sun Ce. After all, this thing is the same, but it is not necessarily the same. It is said that it varies from person to person, that is not wrong. If it is said that it has more benefits to Cao Cao, it has more benefits than disadvantages. But when it comes to Ma Chao and Sun Ce, it may become more bad, and it has become more harmful than advantages. It is indeed not impossible, but it is very
It is possible, or it's just like that. So, for Cao Cao, Ma Chao and Sun Ce, they also know that there are many benefits. That's right. But if it's me, it will change, and that's right. So it varies from person to person. He and Sun Ce both know and understand. If it's better, it's better when it's better when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's right when it's not good.
Wrong. Therefore, this is also true. Cao Cao thought of it. It is great for him and has many benefits, so the benefits are definitely greater than the disadvantages. But for Ma Chao and Sun Ce, it is indeed bad for them, and that is definitely more harmful than the advantages. So they all have their own ideas, and indeed, the ideas of several people are different. At least Ma Chao and Sun Ce, their ideas are different from Cao Cao, that is right. Who said that it is more beneficial than the disadvantages to Cao Mengde, but for them, it is more harmful than the advantages. This is fundamentally different.
It is not an exaggeration to say this, indeed. So this is what it means, and it is OK for Cao Cao; but for Ma Chao and Sun Ce, it is indeed changed. Therefore, the former is good, but the latter two do not think there is anything good, it is really more harmful than good. Then there is nothing to do. What Cao Cao wants is what they don't want. The harm is more harmful than good, so what else do you want, that is. If it is the other way around, it is almost the same, the benefits are more harmful than bad, just like Cao Cao. They are not that way
I thought it was right. But the harm outweighed the benefits, which made them think, yes. Although it was not as treacherous as Cao Cao, they also knew that it would be unfair to put the treacherous hero on them. It was always said that Cao Cao was treacherous hero and treacherous hero Cao Mengde. If there was a treacherous hero Ma Mengqi, Ma Chao would not be used to it. It was really. Sun Bofu and Sun Ce would not be used to it, that's it.
So it's still the treacherous hero Cao Mengde. Everyone is used to it. The key is that Cao Cao himself is also used to it. He himself is not unaware that when he was still young, he did not have the strength and power he is now. Someone dared to say to him in person, Cao Mengde! But now, Cao Cao really knows that it has been so many years, but no one dares to say that he is a traitor in front of him.
Xiong. Of course, what is said behind the scenes is, and everything is said behind the scenes, and it is not heard by oneself. But it is true. Cao Cao doesn't think it's good to be a treacherous hero. Even if someone says this in front of him, he will not be in a good mood, but he will not say it and will definitely take revenge on the other party. That's not. Of course, it's impossible to say that he doesn't punish the other party. Unless he says that the other party is Ma Chao or an adult from a northern alien race, it can be said that Cao Cao is not doing anything to them.
Dharma, but that is unlikely, right? Because those people will not see themselves now, yes. At most, those who can still see themselves at that level are Sun Ce and Sun Bofu, but the other party will never be able to be in front of him and say that he is a treacherous hero. Isn’t that kidding? Cao Cao knew very well that the other party would say behind his back at most that he could not say it in person, that’s right. But he was,
If you don’t expect this, that’s right. It’s not a good thing, right? You can say that you don’t dare to say anything in person. Instead, because you have such strength and power, that’s not. Why didn’t you do this when you were young? That’s right. So from one side, you can see the situation. People are real. How many aren’t there? At least Cao Cao hasn’t seen it yet, maybe there are?
Who knows, he doesn't know anyway. So this is actually more of a good aspect, and the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, yes. Therefore, Cao Cao would not think about anything and let more people talk about him in front of him. That's not a joke? Look at Ma Chao, but he is not afraid of his side and does not ask for his side. But just based on his relationship, he will not say much, that's right. Sun Ce really won't. After all, their Jiangdong army finally asked for his side. This needs to satisfy himself, and it is mainly a big profit.
In terms of disadvantages, you will definitely not offend yourself and yourself easily. That's right. Therefore, Sun Ce will not do it. He is different from Ma Chao. The latter is entirely because of his relationship with him. Even if he has such a good idea, he will not say much. The former is sure that he has something to ask for him and can he offend himself? That's true, that's right. This is also human nature, yes, reality,
That's right. It's normal when you think about it, that's it. It's like that for Ma Chao, but it's naturally the same for Sun Ce. Cao Cao actually didn't expect too much. He did things with more benefits than disadvantages. Ma Chao led his troops to destroy the Jiangdong Army. At the beginning, he naturally wanted to protect the Jiangdong Army. That must be. But after that, as long as the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, he would destroy the Jiangdong Army, he would definitely be that way.
Do it, nothing to say. After all, at that time, the Jiangdong army would definitely not be able to save it, really. Since they can’t save it, let them create the final benefits for their side. Come on, that’s it. At least don’t know each other like this for so many years. The key is that the two armies have helped each other (used) for so many years. Both sides have taken their needs. Whether it is Cao Cao or Sun Ce, they are still satisfied. That’s it. If they are not satisfied, they will definitely stop doing it and will still help each other (used) with each other.
It is enough to explain the problem, there are still many, many. But in the end, Cao Cao was even more unlikely to act voluntarily. It was definitely good for himself and his side. If there were benefits, more benefits and greater benefits, then come, that is. At the beginning, you could fight with the Liangzhou army for the benefit and interests, which was necessary, but what happened? At the beginning, they fought with them because they were saved by the Jiangdong army.
The advantages outweigh the disadvantages, and as long as they are destroyed, the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, then Cao Cao will not immediately lead the Yanzhou army to fight against the Liangzhou army and destroy the Jiangdong army. That's right, that's it.
Chapter completed!